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[Joshleet]

Consider the following scripture....

[Brother Philip]

bad men very bad men-----------------it is who they say it is ----------it aint us

[Joshleet]

[Arley Steinhour]

In the words (translated) of Saint John (Yohanan), the one who witnessed the event as shown by Jesus, are: "the KINGS of the EARTH, and the GREAT MEN, and the RICH MEN, and the CHIEF CAPTIANS, and the MIGHTY MEN, and EVERY BONDMAN, and every FREE MAN."

John, throughout the New Testament, is a very honest, and loving Disciple. He is writing down his description of the players in the event, as he sees, and understands, which is a far cry more accurate than we can, some 1900 years after John shared his vision.

Consider please, not one of us, in this time of Christianity, will have anyone remembering, or disputing anything we write down, especially since we will already be into, or through, the Millennial reign of Jesus, and won't have anyone studying our words. Oh, and one does not need a PHD, when experiencing something, to know it is happening.

Brother Philip, stole what I would have said, so I offer a longer winded version of the same thing. "They are bad men very bad men-----------it is who they say it is ----------it aint not (my paraphrase) us."

In Messiah, His Blessing, and Clarity. Arley

[Joshleet]

[ilovethethunder]

[Brother Philip]

[Sandy]

[PandoraBVV]

LOL Josh.... You giving out homework research and study assignments now?

[Joshleet]

[Arley Steinhour]

Joshleet, Shalom.

IMO, since Rev 6 doesn't really say, I have to presume that John understand, or was told by his Host, Jesus, who can see into the hearts of mortal men, that all those, Left Behind, and experiencing Mega-disruption to the normalcy of life, they just know that God is stirring the pot of events, and they fear what God is doing to the turf (If they survive, they will probably have to go somewhere and change their under-garments).

God/Jesus, I am sure has a hand in John knowing what is crossing the minds of the others. I can tell you this: When my ship was trying to sink and kill us, the crew, every person, to the lowliest Seaman knew that we were about to die, if we didn't somehow turn our sub back toward the surface. Oh, Yes, we knew, and that was only a simple sinking of a ship, nothing like what God puts into motion when He is upset.

In Messiah, He knows, and informs us. Arley

[Joshleet]

If one does a study on each individual listed, It becomes clear, that these folks are usually in some form, against God, or too busy for the Lord, which is the same.

I call into question their biblical knowledge for a couple reasons. It is this type of person, the Lord stated he would bring the strong delusion agasinst.

Now, lets for a moment consider, what other events are occuring when these folks conclude that the the Day of the Lord has arrived. Are they just making this conclusion based on seeing Him who is sitting on the throne, or is there more? IN the sixth seal, we also witness a great earthquake, the sun darkened and the moon turned to blood. According to Joel 2:30-31, this event will occur BEFORE the day of the Lord comes......Why then, are these guys claiming they are already experiencing it?

The only other events we have witnessed in the first set of seals, have been what Jesus called the "birthpains", but He also said "the end is not yet".....Why did he have to state this? There will be wars and rumors of wars, "but the end is not yet." I believe these folks are experiencing more than Just seeing the Lord sitting on His throne. If you ask anyone what does "armageddon" mean, most, if not all know that it is a great battle that climax's at Christ's return. Do you think these folks would be making this conclusion, if an event such as this WASN'T occuring at this time?

The events we witness in the Sixth seal, when these people hide, we also witness at the climax of the Ezekiel 38 war. We know this IS NOT THE FINAL BATTLE, BUT WE WITNESS A GREAT SHAKING IN THE LAND OF ISRAEL, AND "ALL THE MEN ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH SHAKING AT THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD, AT THE CLIMAX OF THIS WAR.

SO, NOT ONLY DO THESE FOLKS FIT THE PROFILE OF WHO THE STRONG DELUSION FALLS ON, (those that Love not the truth), we are witnessing them being very reactionary, and drawing conclusions of what is occuring based soley on the events they are experiencing, and are making this conclusion, based on their very limited knowledge of the word of God.

The Lord stated that the strong delusion's purpose, was to drive one to accept THE LIE..... do we witness this occuring???? Yes we do. In revelation 13:16, we witness this same description of those who have accepted what is occuring in the sixth seal AS the day of the Lord. swearing allegience to the false Messiah. We need to ask ourselves.....Does this situation Fit into what the Lord stated He said He would do? Do we witness a cause/effect situation, that could drive one into accepting THE LIE?

The proclamation of the day of the Lord beginning in the sixth seal, is totally out of place, with all other events. Many have drawn the conclusion that events described in Revelation are "paralell" in nature, never considering that what we are witnessing in the sixth seal is NOT the day of the Lord, But the strong delusion.

I know this may be considered a "new revelation" about the Book of revelation. But Just as the Lord stated, the closer we get to the end, the more He would reveal to us. This information would only benefit one generation of People. This generation would be the one that would be around to experience these events.

If the Lord is going to bring a strong delusion on those that "love not the truth", don't you think he would let US KNOW what it was, so we wouldn't be decieved along with the great men, and the rich, the mighty, and the chief captians?????

There is absolutely NOTHING in the sixth seal, that establishes what is occuring, is the beginning of the day of the Lord. We do not witness any heavenly authority making this proclamation, untill the 14th chapter of revelation. By this time, We will have already experieinced, the seals, first six trumpets, and the 42 month reign of the False messiah. To the contrary, the Word of God clearly establishes that what is occuiring in the sixth seal IS NOT THE START OF THE DAY OF THE LORD....But only those who have eyes to see, will disceern this.....

[Joshleet]

Something else to consider, concerning those of the sixth seal, who are hiding from the face of Him that sits on the throne. Throughout revelation, John Writes down what He is seeing. But consider the folowing Scripture..

[Bosco]

[Joshleet]