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Literain



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quote redeemed
The muslim being devout in his faith, his duites to allah come before his US Military duties, he carried out his duites because he is a muslim, and as a DEVOUT muslim he obeyed the koran request.

BTW ya know that obama said when it came to making a choice , he would choose his faith over US sworn duty to America..
people at that time though he was talking a Christian faith , not muslim..

This Muslim man had for years by his practiceas as a Phyc. to brainwash our Soldiers, the opportunity to tell them not to kill muslim terriosts...
and when they returned , he ha d the opportunity to take advanage of their condition, I am sure as a muslim first , he layed a guilt trip on them for carrying out their duites as US Soldiers..
wonder just how many minds was given in his care,,, and he messed them up , didn't suicide increase at Fort Hood ?..


He was treating our soldiers as a psychiatrist, with his views about the

military, how harmful was he to them...and if the military didn't want

to do anything with his bad performance review...why

had that been a christian psychiatrist would the army have handled

his attitude earlier on. Seems like a big problem and the

answer at this time seems obvious,
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

terdsie wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW7PAhHKPyo
Totally and absolutely inappropriate to finally start talking about it 2 minutes in to his comments!
A "shoutout". . . Please! :roll:Benjie :þ ♫ ♪



Commander in Chief???????????????????????????

NOT this man

seems some people don't have a problem with this even though

it is worth a thousand words
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suspect asked for advice on going to fight Muslims

FORT HOOD, Texas - The Army psychiatrist suspected of going on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood had recently asked for advice on what he should tell fellow soldiers who were concerned about fighting Muslims in Iraq or Afghanistan, a local Muslim leader said Saturday.

Osman Danquah, co-founder of the Islamic Community of Greater Killeen, said he spoke with the suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, after two services in late summer.

But during their second conversation, Hasan seemed almost incoherent, Danquah said.

"I told him, `There's something wrong with you,'" Danquah told The Associated Press during an interview at Fort Hood on Saturday. "I didn't get the feeling he was talking for himself, but something just didn't seem right."

But Danquah was sufficiently troubled that he recommended the center reject Hasan's request to become a lay Muslim leader for the post.

During his talks with Hasan, Danquah said he told him that Muslims were fighting each other in Afghanistan, Pakistan and the Palestinian territories and that American soldiers with objections to serving overseas had recourse to voice such concerns. http://enews.earthlink.net/
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good column by Frank Gaffney

http://www.newsmax.com/frank_gaffney/Fort_Hood_Obama/2009/11/06/282652.html
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is being reported 13 individuals were killed in the shootings at Fort Hood.

IMO there were 14 deaths. Francheska Velez, 21, was pregnant.

Victims at Fort Hood
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/11/05/us/20091105-fort-hood.html
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sue wrote:
It is being reported 13 individuals were killed in the shootings at Fort Hood.

IMO there were 14 deaths. Francheska Velez, 21, was pregnant.

Victims at Fort Hood
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/11/05/us/20091105-fort-hood.html


I agree Sue..The baby should also be considered as an individual
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Faith wrote:
Sue wrote:
It is being reported 13 individuals were killed in the shootings at Fort Hood.

IMO there were 14 deaths. Francheska Velez, 21, was pregnant.

Victims at Fort Hood
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/11/05/us/20091105-fort-hood.html


I agree Sue..The baby should also be considered as an individual


i also agree ... Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

baby would be counted if it suited their purpose

Sue is right

14 it is
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A website run by radical Muslims today

honored Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan,

the man accused of killing 13 people at Fort Hood in Texas,

as an "Officer and a Gentleman,"
saying his actions should not be denounced.

The massacre yesterday, which also left more than two dozen injured, was called a "pre-emptive attack" by supporters of the Revolution Muslim website.

Hasan, a Muslim psychiatrist who reportedly had been disciplined for pushing Islam on his patients at one point in his career, had given away his furniture and handed out Qurans before going to the military base and firing on soldiers at a processing center where soldiers prepared to deploy.

There were multiple reports he had objected to being placed in the position of possibly having to fight fellow Muslims by his scheduled deployment to the Middle East.

"Get Well Soon Major Nidal We Love You," said the website run by radicals who follow an imam once jailed in Britain. "Major Nidal Hasan M.D. An officer and a gentleman was injured while partaking in a pre-emptive attack."

The website lists as its imam Sheik Abdullah el-Faisal, who in February 2003 was sentenced to nine years in jail, reduced to seven on appeal, after being convicted of soliciting murder and inciting racial hatred in England.

According to reports in the London Guardian at the time, hundreds attended his lectures, possibly including James Ujaama, a U.S. citizen accused of trying to help the Taliban in Afghanistan; Richard Reid, who attempted to detonate a bomb in his shoe while crossing the Atlantic in a jetliner; and Zacharias Moussaoui, jailed for the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks on the U.S.

The reports said el-Faisal, who later was released and returned to his home in Jamaica, suggested Muslims attend training camps to gain the skills to wage jihad on the West.

He was recorded praising Osama bin Laden and saying, "You have to learn how to shoot and fly planes and drive tanks."

El-Faisal also said chemical weapons should be utilized to "exterminate non-believers" and said Muslim mothers should buy toy guns for their children to providing training opportunities.

"We do NOT denounce this officer's actions, we do however apologize for the following acts committed by our country," the U.S.-based website's supporters said. They listed: "Bay of Tonkin, The East Timor Massacre by USA Supported Suharto, 1902 Samar Massacre in the Philippines by the USMC, 1,000,000 Dead Iraqis, Afghani & Pakistanis Killed by the USA, Starvation of Africa & Rape of it's (sic) Resources by the USA, Support of the Brutal 'Israeli' Occupation Entity, Etc. Etc."

"Every day is Fort Hood for the world community due to USA policies and their tyrant totalitarian puppet regimes," the activists proclaimed. "Rest assure (sic) the slain terrorists at Fort Hood are in the eternal hellfire and it is not to (sic) late for YOU to change your policies," they said.

The website's mission statement states, "Revolution Muslim is a message and movement grounded in the sayings, deeds, actions and understanding of Ahlus Sunnah wal jama'ah (The collective body of those Muslims that adhere to the ways of the Prophet (SAWS) and the first four generations of Muslims)."

It continues, "We pray that we may witness the dismantlement of western, secular dominance across the world as we hold it to be pagan and idolatrous in the majority of its presumptions. We seek a resurrection of the just example set forth by centuries of Islamic rule throughout the ages and we hold it to be self evident for the objective soul and mind that Allah is One and that Muhammad ibn Abdullah is His Prophet and that the religion offers the solution to all of the world’s ills and afflictions."

The base commander said soldiers reported they heard Hasan shout "Allahu Akbar," or "Allah is the greatest," while he was shooting.

The site is disdainful of other Islamic organizations, citing a condemnation from the Islamic Society of North America regarding the shootings.

"ISNA - The house dog, barks once more to please its kafir Masters," Revolution Muslim wrote.

Hasan was born and raised in Virginia, but has family outside of Jerusalem. He enlisted and obtained his education from the military. He spent most of his career at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington until he was sent to Fort Hood this year, from where he apparently was to be deployed.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=115325
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Literain wrote:
A website run by radical Muslims today

honored Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan,

the man accused of killing 13 people at Fort Hood in Texas,

as an "Officer and a Gentleman,"
saying his actions should not be denounced.

The massacre yesterday, which also left more than two dozen injured, was called a "pre-emptive attack" by supporters of the Revolution Muslim website.

Hasan, a Muslim psychiatrist who reportedly had been disciplined for pushing Islam on his patients at one point in his career, had given away his furniture and handed out Qurans before going to the military base and firing on soldiers at a processing center where soldiers prepared to deploy.

There were multiple reports he had objected to being placed in the position of possibly having to fight fellow Muslims by his scheduled deployment to the Middle East.

"Get Well Soon Major Nidal We Love You," said the website run by radicals who follow an imam once jailed in Britain. "Major Nidal Hasan M.D. An officer and a gentleman was injured while partaking in a pre-emptive attack."

The website lists as its imam Sheik Abdullah el-Faisal, who in February 2003 was sentenced to nine years in jail, reduced to seven on appeal, after being convicted of soliciting murder and inciting racial hatred in England.

According to reports in the London Guardian at the time, hundreds attended his lectures, possibly including James Ujaama, a U.S. citizen accused of trying to help the Taliban in Afghanistan; Richard Reid, who attempted to detonate a bomb in his shoe while crossing the Atlantic in a jetliner; and Zacharias Moussaoui, jailed for the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks on the U.S.

The reports said el-Faisal, who later was released and returned to his home in Jamaica, suggested Muslims attend training camps to gain the skills to wage jihad on the West.

He was recorded praising Osama bin Laden and saying, "You have to learn how to shoot and fly planes and drive tanks."

El-Faisal also said chemical weapons should be utilized to "exterminate non-believers" and said Muslim mothers should buy toy guns for their children to providing training opportunities.

"We do NOT denounce this officer's actions, we do however apologize for the following acts committed by our country," the U.S.-based website's supporters said. They listed: "Bay of Tonkin, The East Timor Massacre by USA Supported Suharto, 1902 Samar Massacre in the Philippines by the USMC, 1,000,000 Dead Iraqis, Afghani & Pakistanis Killed by the USA, Starvation of Africa & Rape of it's (sic) Resources by the USA, Support of the Brutal 'Israeli' Occupation Entity, Etc. Etc."

"Every day is Fort Hood for the world community due to USA policies and their tyrant totalitarian puppet regimes," the activists proclaimed. "Rest assure (sic) the slain terrorists at Fort Hood are in the eternal hellfire and it is not to (sic) late for YOU to change your policies," they said.

The website's mission statement states, "Revolution Muslim is a message and movement grounded in the sayings, deeds, actions and understanding of Ahlus Sunnah wal jama'ah (The collective body of those Muslims that adhere to the ways of the Prophet (SAWS) and the first four generations of Muslims)."

It continues, "We pray that we may witness the dismantlement of western, secular dominance across the world as we hold it to be pagan and idolatrous in the majority of its presumptions. We seek a resurrection of the just example set forth by centuries of Islamic rule throughout the ages and we hold it to be self evident for the objective soul and mind that Allah is One and that Muhammad ibn Abdullah is His Prophet and that the religion offers the solution to all of the world’s ills and afflictions."

The base commander said soldiers reported they heard Hasan shout "Allahu Akbar," or "Allah is the greatest," while he was shooting.

The site is disdainful of other Islamic organizations, citing a condemnation from the Islamic Society of North America regarding the shootings.

"ISNA - The house dog, barks once more to please its kafir Masters," Revolution Muslim wrote.

Hasan was born and raised in Virginia, but has family outside of Jerusalem. He enlisted and obtained his education from the military. He spent most of his career at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington until he was sent to Fort Hood this year, from where he apparently was to be deployed.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=115325


... these people are in New York.. !!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

these people need to be hunted down & locked up....

they seem like a threat
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's about to getting really scary in America. The REAL agenda and reason "the one we've been waiting for" was elected is about to be revealed.

Keep your eyes on Jesus.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This man is a terrorist...plain and simple. The evidence already presented has proved that. Think about this for a moment....what better position is there than a psychiatrist to recruit new terrorists within the military? They cannot fight us toe to toe so they must seek out other means and the most effective is to attack from within.

I haven't posted too much of late because, being an Intelligence Analyst, I have been extremely busy. The headlines over the last month is just a very tiny clue as to what I have been working on. What the public knows is not the tip of the iceberg but, rather, a snowflake on the tip of an iceberg.

All I can say is be vigilant, be prepared for anything and do a lot of praying. We've been fortunate to stop just about everything before it happens....so far.

This terrorist will be executed without a doubt....after he has been interrogated. And, if by chance, his execution is stayed he will get even worse when they put him in prison at Ft. Leavenworth with a bunch of the Army's most violent criminals that are just begging for a minute alone with this coward.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My hubby did something rather out-of-character for him early this morning. He wasn't thinking about this incident, but for some reason, thoughts of jihad kept him up. He also reassured me that, should something happen to him, his life insurance should sustain me until I can finish my degree. Then I told him about this violence here, and he said "wow." He's supposed to attend/take part in a Muslim/Christian/Jewish debate in a couple of weeks.

My hubby is a very stable, very down-to-earth guy (the very type I need to drag my head out of the clouds sometimes). He just doesn't do this sort of thing. Getting up in the middle of the night like this? Nuh-uh. Dunno what to make of this, but we need to pray and act. Don't allow threats of jihad scare us into keeping silent about our faith. Pray, Pray, Pray. And prayers for hubby et. al. would be appreciated (for the debate).
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ft. Leavenworth! Ouchies! (he's earned it, though)
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